Run your Bike without Battery

by Sujith on 09/25/2009

The battery of motor cycles are usually used to power horn and indicators. If you are not using the bike regularly, then  the battery will be under charged and get damaged easily. Here on simple technique to power the horn and indicator of the bike.

For this you need to purchase one electrolytic capacitor of rating 2500 micro Fared 16 Volt (More rating can also be used). This is available at all electronic spare parts or repair shops for approx Rs 15/-

Remove the faulty battery and connect the capacitor’s positive lead to Red wire and negative lead to black/ green wire. The lead identification of capacitor is as show.Aluminum Electrolytic Capacitor 300x300 Run your Bike without Battery

Now start the bike…Your bike’s horn and indicator will work. This is tested with Hero Honda, Bajaj and TVS bikes.


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Ross December 8, 2009 at 8:41 AM

How can you start it with out a battery?

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Admin December 11, 2009 at 6:54 PM

It is applicable for the middle order bikes with kick start (Most common in India)

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Mj Singh June 30, 2010 at 5:37 PM

Hello Sir,
I would like to know if it is applicable on Royal Enfield Standard 350 cc Model as well ? Since it Does not start without battery being connected or when battery is low(although it doesn’t have self-start option but even kick start is still dependent on Battery for this variant)..I would love to get rid of such dependency on battery for my motorbike,since it would relieve loads of hassles for me.

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Sujith June 30, 2010 at 10:24 PM

I have not tried this for Enfield. You can try this, it will not harm your bike and not a costly experiment too. Use two to three capacitors in parallel, I think it should work out. Try and post your result, it will be helpful to others also.

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Nilopher Naripati July 2, 2010 at 1:18 PM

Hi, I’ve tried with Capacitor of rating 2200 µF / 16 Volts for my H.Honda Glamour. Horn is working fine when engine is accelerated, but when in normal running (just start) horn is not working. Indicators are not working in either above cases. Please guide me what to do. Thanks.

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Sujith July 3, 2010 at 7:40 PM

Try with more capacitors (at least 4) in parallel . I think the power required for horn and indicators of HH Hlamour is more.

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Johnnie Keyon July 22, 2010 at 6:17 PM

It’s really a different artical.thanks for that.but still it put me in suspance.how can it posible The self start bike without battery.Now I am stop writeing with thank’s for introduce new subject….!

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trotglobber December 22, 2010 at 7:32 PM

It cannot be started using a capacitor, the article also doesn’t say so.

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thakur ujjainia August 13, 2010 at 3:27 PM

can i use this with car. which capacity of capacitor required for car. waiting for ur reply

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Sujith August 13, 2010 at 3:31 PM

No friend,
The case of car is different. No such technology developed till now. Car battery is used for starting also na? No such capacitor is available to deliver such an amount of energy.

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Rohit September 14, 2010 at 4:56 PM

Can this be done on a Yezdi Roadking ? ?
Mine has no battery and the bike runs on magneto coils..
the its 6Volts

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yuvaraaj December 9, 2010 at 10:26 AM

this wil work out in splender kick start bike ah. .

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muthukumar December 9, 2010 at 6:17 PM

is this work for pulsar 150cc ?

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shaker December 11, 2010 at 11:42 AM

Hi, i tried with 2 capacitors with 2200 x 25V for my Hero Honda Passion vehicle, but still my indicators and horn are not working properly as normal. Could you please suggest me for any further replacement or addtion.

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Sujith December 11, 2010 at 1:45 PM

You have to ensure the correct polarity and the existing battery must be removed. It has been tested with HH Passion.

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Shaker December 13, 2010 at 3:31 PM

Hi, its working fine now with 2200 x 16v for my Hero Honda Passion Vehicle. I have disconnected the buzzer for my indicators. Can i use more rating also for ex: 3300 x 16v or 4700 x 16v so that i can refix my buzzer to my vehicle to have a better performance. At the same time, using higher rating will harm the vehicle. Could you please suggest me.

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yuvaraaj December 14, 2010 at 9:43 PM

how can we charge the capacitor…

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Sujith December 14, 2010 at 9:57 PM

It will get charge from the dynamo

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yuvaraaj December 14, 2010 at 10:00 PM

it will efficient like battery ah

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yuvaraaj December 14, 2010 at 10:02 PM

Then it will charged under running condition only na…

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Rahul January 5, 2011 at 8:51 PM

I would like to know if it is applicable on scooty pep plus 90 cc Model as well .
If not how can i start scooty without battery ?

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Sujith January 5, 2011 at 9:06 PM

For starting you have to use battery. It is not the replacement of battery for self start

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Rahul January 5, 2011 at 10:02 PM

O.K . , for self starting battery will use. But if the battery fails , my scooty is not getting on by kick. so, i want to know how can i start the scooty by kick without battery. In scooty self & kick start both facilities are available.

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Sujith January 5, 2011 at 10:14 PM

It is understood that TVS Scooty will not kick start in case of drained battery. I haven’t tested capacitor with Scooty. Placing capacitor in parallel with battery will not work.

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Prashant January 14, 2011 at 4:33 PM

Hi,
I want to use this for my honda unicorn.
Can I use the capacitor along with the battery(AMCO or Exide)?
If not which type of battery can be used along with capacitor?
Nowadays hybrid batteries are also available.
http://www.masterignition.com/New/Inner/Power_Cap_Battery.html
Thanks.
Prashant

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Sujith January 14, 2011 at 6:04 PM

Using Capacitor in parallel with existing battery is not advisable. Thanks for the input of Hybrid and power capacitor.

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Prashant January 17, 2011 at 4:58 PM

Hi,
Thanks for your reply.
Which battery can be used with capacitor?
Any idea about VRLA batteries…?
Regards,
Prashant

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Prashant June 29, 2011 at 2:02 PM

Hello,
Will the bikes other parts be affected for not having a battery in it?
I mean other electrical parts.

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NAVEENKUMAR August 9, 2011 at 10:28 PM

Hello Sir,
Can u plz suggest me, how can I use this to light up Head lights?

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ganesh August 10, 2011 at 3:18 PM

hello,
i used 2200microfarad capacitor,my bike horn is not working.then i tried g5 capacitors in parallel but still not working my bike horn.
plz suggest me proper solution

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Sujith August 10, 2011 at 6:37 PM

You have to remove the existing battery. Get the horn checked for its serviceability

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Sserubidde September 19, 2011 at 1:45 PM

Is it possible to increase the wattage of a motorcycle using a capacitor.

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rafiq September 28, 2011 at 12:09 AM

Sujith, is it harmful to bike wirings.., and any risk is there to connect capacitors with wrong voltage??

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Onkar March 1, 2012 at 3:11 PM

Hello Sujith,

Just thought you might be of some help on this…….
I’ve got a Nov-2011 Honda Unicorn Dazzler but now i am facing battery problems & since it doesn’t have kick option, i need to push start it every time, so i am thinking of changing my bike’s battery to a bigger capacity 7AH one as i think that its 4 AH battery is not enough…….Given below is the comparison between Unicorn & Dazzler

Unicorn;
Battery : 12 V , 7 AH
Headlamp: Halogen 12V 35/35W
Instrument panel: Analog

Unicorn Dazzler;
Battery : 12 V , 4 AH (Maintenance Free)
Headlamp: Halogen 12V 35/35W
Instrument panel: Digital

please advise
1) If i can replace the 4 AH with 7AH one, will it be compatible.
2) Should i go for Maintenance free or normal battery.

P.S. : Dazzler is having Digital Instrument panel whereas Unicorn has Analog Instrument panel.

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Sujith March 1, 2012 at 3:17 PM

You can replace the 4 Ah battery with 7 Ah but, you may face problems with the battery enclosure. If you can get a compact 7 Ah battery then it’s OK. Always go for maintenance free battery. There will not be much issues with electrical compatibility.

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onkar March 7, 2012 at 12:49 PM

thanks a lot Sujith……..!!!!

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bijay August 20, 2012 at 8:32 AM

sir , i have got honda cb shine125 kick start bike . and now its starting problem . can i start my bike without bettary . if yes plz help me how i start my bike

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Sujith August 20, 2012 at 8:35 AM

No battery is required for Honda Shine 125 Kick Start bike. Starting problem may be due to some other reasons. Clean the spark plug

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bijay August 20, 2012 at 10:18 AM

sir am also clean spark plug but same prob .seconde problem when i use horn, light bettary gettiung discharged and stop runging , and not start

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bijay September 1, 2012 at 5:37 AM

thankx for reply me . lastly am found my bike problem . it have starting coil short problem.now my shini start without bettary

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Abhineet Agarwal September 9, 2012 at 2:17 PM

hey…i have pulsar 150 dtsi, the 2005 model, with analogue meter and headlight with 2 parking lights on either sides. It has an electric start and kick too. Its battery is not working and I am forced to use kick start.
Does using capacitor will have any inverse effect on my bike when on higher rpm???
And will this blow the horn properly as the indicators in the bike are still working???

I have one more query, if u can plz help. I have installed a 25 led circuit under the bike. At present I am powering it using an external nokia 3.7 volt battery and it works fine. But it is a problem to charge the battery every time. So can u plz suggest me some way so that I can power those led’s from bike withot the fear of getting them burnt.????
Plz rply soon…..help is require urgently….!!

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Sujith September 9, 2012 at 2:38 PM

Usage capacitor will not effect the performance. For better working of horns and indicators capacitor with high rating is required. Remember you will not get the same performance. I’ve not tested the same in Pulsar. You can go for a try.
2. You have to make a small circuit to charge the battery. It’s very simple and costs less than Rs 50/- Go through this
http://electroschematics.com/5362/mobile-charger-using-bike-battery/

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Abhineet Agarwal September 10, 2012 at 6:18 AM

thanx for the promp rply….but all I wanted to know is whether I can power the circuit directly from bike without using any battery, not even bike battery, though I don’t have one.???

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Sujith September 10, 2012 at 6:23 AM

Yes you can

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Abhineet Agarwal September 10, 2012 at 6:29 AM

but how??… Can u plz elaborate..??

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Abhineet Agarwal September 10, 2012 at 3:41 PM

hey…that capacitor thing did not worked with my pulsar. I connected the capacitor as was directed but when I started the bike and pressed the horn button, it dit not blow and as a result the green neutral light and the rpm meter started flickering…..
Plz help……what do I do so as to make my horn blow properly..??

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Claude October 2, 2012 at 12:24 PM

Dear Sujith,
Thanks for the valuable info, I have a Royal Enfield 350cc, All these years I was running it on 8V battery. As 8V batteries are not available easily, I have tried running the bike on 12 v 7A Hero Honda Pleasure battery. The starting is perfect but when the headlight is put on the ampere meter shows a negative charge. Headlamp is 6V bulb. During normal running conditions the ampere meter shows very low positive charge. If i keep the headlights own while running the battery gets discharged, How can I overcome this problem?
The mechanic suggest that the coil, alternator and magneto of the bike needs to be changed. (cost appx. 5000Rs.) can you help me fixing this problem of charging the battery?

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Vijay October 6, 2012 at 7:15 PM

Can you draw circuit for adding electrolytic capacitor.

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manohar b October 17, 2012 at 5:18 AM

Dear sir,
can the capacitor be used for Honda Activa ?

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Sujith October 17, 2012 at 9:28 PM

No you can’t.

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naresh October 22, 2012 at 9:37 PM

Can you please tell me the location of battery in Honda Shine.

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boxboy October 28, 2012 at 2:46 PM

Working with CBZ xtreme.

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Abhineet Agarwal October 29, 2012 at 3:58 PM

I worked out with pulsar. Using 4 X (4800 micro ferade 65 volt)capacitors will work out with pulsar 150. It will cost around rs. 100 in all.
I worked out with that LED problem too. I connected those LEDs with the headlight as the power supplied to headlight is 12 volts. Now, the LEDs light up when I turn on the headlight at night. In addition I have also connected engine lights.
For more information regarding the circuit and other things, please do contact me.

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sachin mysorkar November 5, 2012 at 11:48 PM

hi sir,

I would like to run my cycle on battery how can i do that. which battery should be used so that it can be easily fit into the cycle. and what would be the cost to do such.

thanks

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kundan jha February 5, 2013 at 1:44 PM

sir, can i use this technology on pulsar 150dtsi …..
please rply urgently

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v. yuvaraj February 11, 2013 at 11:18 PM

i want to run an electric bike only one 12v battery,but our commercial electric bikes have four 12v =48v, it any alternate method to use step up converter for 12v to 48v.

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raj February 26, 2013 at 5:32 PM

my bike is 150cc dtsi pulsar …but in my bike buttery is not charging the battery volt is not comming ..

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debasis March 12, 2013 at 7:02 PM

Sir,

I have a HH Splendor Plus bike. The battery of my bike needs to replace because the horn and indicators of my bike are not working properly. In this regard, can i replace the battery with new one @ Rs. 700-800/- or I should go for a capacitor with just Rs. 15/-. Which would be better for my bike ?. Can i use this capacitor for long without battery? However, I may use it if it is safe for my bike.

Plz suggest.

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arun March 17, 2013 at 10:57 PM

hi,,,
i was looking for an answer on how to replace my stock horn of thunderbird with 2 new horns,since it have only 1 pair of wires, how should i connect it for two horns? how the connection should be? series or parallel,if in parallel is it gonna blow my fuse ? waiting for reply
thank you

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Sujith March 25, 2013 at 9:52 PM

Can you specify the voltage rating of the horns? If it is 12 Volts, connect them in parallel.

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arun March 26, 2013 at 11:02 AM

thanks for the replay.
however the rating is 12 v.. and the current around 7 amp something!!! so,,if i connect them in parallel,,,voltage will be same,but current????now i replaced with one horn,but when i push it,the headlighr dims! that means it drawing enough current right?so,,is it good to go in parallel or with new relay?if i have to use relay,please give more detail and its wiring bcs,i dnt want to spend money to the service people for jus wiring.

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anish March 26, 2013 at 7:52 PM

Its common that,if you are using two horns in parallel,the horns will draw more current from your battery.In this case you have to specify the purchase date of your battery and if the battery is more than two years old you need to purchase a new battery for better result.Check the charging of battery.

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Rasheed neyyathur April 18, 2013 at 12:10 PM

Hey this trick is good i like to know that is this applicable for diesel bullet tuarus pls reply to me as fast as u can thanks

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Yogi saini May 8, 2013 at 12:32 PM

How can i use more than one capacitor .
ple give me details on drawing sheet.
thank u.

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Usama ata May 12, 2013 at 4:21 PM

I want to know wil it work on 70 cc motorcycles?

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